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Nikki would have been our next president
« on: July 16, 2024, 09:28:46 AM »
If that bullet would have gone an inch or so to the right . . .

Nikki would have been sworn in as POTUS in January 2025.

Now we will have JD as VP for 4 years followed by him being POTUS starting in 2029.

This is likely going to be very bad for Ukraine.

Interestingly, wife and I attended a presentation by JD back in 2017 or so after his book was published.

During the Q and A session, I brought up a couple of points in which I told him that some of his examples were not very realistic.

Don't remember exactly . . . but something about him giving examples of a couple of cities that had overcome certain problems (maybe racial).  I pointed out to him that those cities had virtually zero minorites.

He replied:  Yes, but . . .       I don't remember anything more about our back and forth.
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Re: Nikki would have been our next president
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2024, 09:48:13 AM »
so what EXACTLY DID JD Vance say about Trump BEFORE Trump won the 2016 election?
all the below is easily accessible through Google


I’m a “never Trump” guy. I never liked him

I’m definitely not gonna vote for Trump because I think that he’s projecting very complex problems onto simple villains

I quickly realized that Trump’s actual policy proposals, such as they are, range from immoral to absurd

Trump instead offers a political high, a promise to “Make America Great Again” without a single good idea regarding how.[His] promises are the needle in America’s collective vein. … Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they’ll realize it. Whether he wins or not, people are going to wake up and realize these problems are still there

Without some recognition that some of these problems in our community are not the fault of other people, they’re not going to be solved by a Mexican border wall or better trade deals with China. Without some recognition along those lines, I don’t believe these problems are ever truly going to get better

But I’m not surprised by Trump’s rise, and I think the entire [Republican] Party has only itself to blame. We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party’s collective neglect. … I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler. How’s that for discouraging

The other big problem I have with Trump is that he has dragged down our entire political conversation. [He] is changing the way people think about other groups of people in a very negative way. [T]here is definitely an element of [his] support that has its basis in racism or xenophobia

People listen to what their political leaders are telling them, and my view is both that Trump is tapping into some racially ugly attitudes, but also that he is leading people to racially ugly attitudes. ... [He] is exploiting something but he’s also leading the white working class to a very dark place.16 His rallies may be cathartic, as he screams and yells at conjured enemies, but he offers no solutions. His entire candidacy is an exercise in pointing the finger at someone else. In pointing that finger so repeatedly and enthusiastically, Donald Trump has debased our entire political culture.

I can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place. [He] makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us.

Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office




and let me remid you, J D Vance is no liberal, he's far right, so he's not gonna dis the billionaire donors who backed Trump, cuz he's worked for THEM and needs THEM as well
ya'll are bein played, and it's all right out in the open, but there are NONE so blind as those who choose not to open their eyes to see

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Nikki would have been our next president
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2024, 03:27:58 PM »
If that bullet would have gone an inch or so to the right . . .

Nikki would have been sworn in as POTUS in January 2025.

Nikki is a neocon. There is a reason she didn't poll better. She is like John McCain and
Lindsay Graham. They want to go to war with everyone.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2024, 03:30:10 PM by 2tallbill »
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Re: Nikki would have been our next president
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2024, 03:51:26 PM »
so, in other words BEEL, you support Putin, you support appeasement, WHY????
did giving Hitler Austria and and Czechoslovokia, satisfy his ambitions, or did it make him stronger for when he eventually declared war on the west?
stalin even went along with it, and stalin and putin divided poland
stalin was shocked! shocked I tell you, when Hitler betrayed him

I asked you about Russia before, but you dodged the question, as usual....
I think I know WHY now
and why you conceal so MUCH about yurself which you deflect and deny....
you have no rational reason to believe the things you do
you don't really think about it, instead you parrot right-wing pro-trump talkin points

faith in what you believe
doesn't require thought, it only needs conviction

all we gotta do is arm ukraine (which boosts our our own defense industry and economy) we don't have to risk American lives
israel's enemies, ukraine's enemies ARE ALSO OUR ENEMIES
when our enemies start slaughtering their neighbors, the smartest move is to help our friends FIGHT OUR MUTUAL ENEMIES, so we don't end up having to do it ourseleves one day

I know ya'll are struggling, what with record wall street highs, record low unemployment, inflation slowing after getting larger cuz of covid, lack of race riots, etc
I guess it's causing a lot of ya'll to suffer :)
and ya want a change

if Trump wins, yur gonna get a change alright just like last time but much much more this time
you can never, ever argue with a lemming about jumping off a cliff - he always gonna jump, no matter what, cuz it's not reason that's driving his choice

deep down, ya know what?
A PART OF ME WANTS ALL YOU MFers TO JUMP OFF THE CLIFF!!!!
just so I can be like that annoying smart alec kid on Simpson's yelling "HA HA" to ya

ML.
a much smarter question you coulda asked Vance in 2017, was, "Do you still view Trump as being America's Hitler?"
cuz all his derisive quotes about Trump were in 2016, just a year before yur town hall encounter (was he speaking from Huckabee's new podium?)

woul've been illuminating to see the difference in just one year, after Trump assumed power
compared to the rather pointless question you asked

to get the right answers, ya gotta learn to ask the right questions

and you would've learned that Vance switched from Trump-phobic to Trump-phillic
not becuz he changed his mind regarding Trump's obvious deficiencies
but becuz Trump became President, and Trump divided the Pepublican party between RINOS and MAGA
and vance didn't wanna be labeled a RINO and lose his position...

simple self interest, TRUMPS all else in this country


here for all you maga types
is an audion/video montage of Vance dissin Trump
he repeats everything i've been tellin ya fer years



i'm waitin for the "entirely fake" reason as to why Vance reversed course, instead of tellin the trutth, of why he changed his mind and bent the knee
which was to not lose his position and be kicked out of congress for being a RINO

Lindsey graham, more or less did the same thing

will right-wing oligarch owned media show a tape like this to their viewers? yur kiddin right?

none of this is normal
if Trump loses the vote in Nov, it won't matter to him, he's already planning on shutting down the electoral process if he loses like he tried to last time

if Trump is behind in the polls, there will be an october surprise against Biden just like there was with Hillary as well as electoral chaos to ruin everything
with Trump it's NOT who votes that counts as much as who counts the votes

if Trump wins an American maidan will be the outcome, when he
raises taxes on the poor and middle class to give to the rich
in Texas, about 25% of state education funding, comes from the US Dept of Education, he'll get rid of that dept and eliminate federal funding
he'll give vouchers to parents, who will take the voucher and an additional $10,000 to $40,000 to send their kids to a private school to even further reduce publich school funding

he will cust social security, medicare. medicaid
mass deportations
end birthright citizenship

and this is just the top layer of ice molecules on a giant iceberg

go jump!!!!






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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2024, 07:17:19 PM »
I asked you about Russia before, but you dodged the question, as usual....
I think I know WHY now

It's impossible to have a reasonable conversation with you even remotely related to politics. 
Trump does not equal Hitler. He was president for 4 years and zero people were sent to
camps. I realize you can't see that, you are being both unreasonable and irrational.

I am not answering your 30 unrelated topics per post. I have better, more interesting,
more productive things to do with my time.
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Re: Nikki would have been our next president
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2024, 07:32:03 PM »
"It's impossible to have a reasonable conversation with you even remotely related to politics. "

reasonable implies reason, I don't see any of that in you
whatever is the current Right Wing Media soup de jour, is what drips from yur lips
there's no reasoning goin on

again, you duck the russian question...
let's see, is it America should't meddle in the affairs of others, or why support Ukrainians getting killed, you want peace...
which BS is it?


so that's the measure, eh?
yur ONLY Hitleresque if, and only if, you put racially inferior people in camps?  please tell that to J D Vance
hitler had a moustache, Trump doesn't have one, therefor Trump isn't Hitler

Truth, like everything else in nature, isn't binary, it's a spectrum
and Trump is pretty damned far down the fascist spectrum

camps? like this?  during peak covid?

http://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2019_27/2919376/190702-migrants-overcrowding-facility-texas-al-1412.jpg

imagine when it's millions, like Project 2025 claims it WILL be
i'm sure latin america will be OK with imprisoning millions of latinos and killin a few, would't worry 'bout it, what could possibly go wrong?
and it will also give Steve Banon another opportunity to grift off "the wall"
that's a win-win, right????
or am I being unreasonable?

UDACHI Beel,
somethin tells me yur gonna need it



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Re: Nikki would have been our next president
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2024, 03:09:36 AM »
If that bullet would have gone an inch or so to the right . . .

I think the same, that bullet was so close that just slightly over towards the head and Trump would have been successfully assassinated and he would be dead right now and no longer an issue.

Looks like Trump was really very lucky indeed.

I've not had a chance to look into it in depth as have been busy but potentially the spectator who jumped into the path of a bullet might have jumped into a path of a bullet that might have successfully killed Trump if it was one heading that way.

Potentially I think this is probably the closest shave nearly successful assassination in history.

It goes to show how polarised politics has become in the US and how antagonisms are growing and boiling over. That happens when people start forming camps and start waving their flag. I feel it's happening in Europe now too.

Trump has a kind of comedic style of public speaking kind of funny in a way. Anyway still a while to go until Election Day. Assuming both Trump & Biden get there it should be interesting I guess to see the outcome.
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Re: Nikki would have been our next president
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2024, 07:50:58 AM »
the dumb phuque who shot at Trump, missed an easy shot
I ain't surprised he was kicked off the School Shooting team

it looks like the shooter, a registered Republican, whose family had pro-Trump signs in the yard was another one of America's growing population of mentally ill people
a lotta phuqued up people in this country choose suicide by cop
add one more to the list, i'm sure many more will be comin


more here
http://x.com/i/status/1813249791943668000

never let a crisis go to waste
so J D Vance blamed it on Biden

Trump cuts himself shaving and he'll say it's Biden's fault, and can you please send me some $$$, look at the boo-boo I got fighting for YOU


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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2024, 08:23:40 AM »


definitely not a communist libtard, ya'll

extreme MAGA types are wearin bandanges over their ear now, the same way Christains wear crosses
this is actually a real thing
http://www.rawstory.com/republican-national-convention-2024/

i think that at this moment, we're livin in the time, right before we start slip-sliding to the "end times"
one way or another, tectonic shifts, also known as an earthquakes are coming to America and the world
not a question of "IF" but only "WHEN"
you should all prepare

it's NOT here yet, don't be worried though, cuz you'll know right away when it comes
seriously, be prepared

one day, we're all gonna be livin in a state of "permanent emergency"
with the radio blaring, "everyone to get from street"

Revelation 13:3
sez the antichrist will APPEAR to have a fatal head wound, but will recover, and the whole world will be enthralled by the Beast
sounds familiar...

for those who don't know...
In Christian eschatology, Antichrist refers to a kind of person prophesied by the Bible to oppose Jesus Christ and falsely substitute themselves as a savior in Christ's place before the Second Coming

guess what?
HA HA!

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Krimster For President - Join The Lets Party!
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2024, 09:07:45 AM »
if you are not satisfied with the choice between Democrat or Republican
consider a 3rd party alternative candidate
LIKE ME!
you can cast a write in Ballot for Krimster!!!

What is the platform for the Lets Party?

Promote the Dollar as the official state religion, to be worshipped by all
to replace Christianity which is just a middleman between you and the one TRUE God
in our new religion, you don't give dollars to the church
the church gives you to the dollar

if yer a dewd, and ya wanna get yur pee pee cut-off "to be a woman" that's FINE with us, we'll even pay for it, cuz then ya won't  be reproducing
but gettin yur pee pee cut-off IS THE ONLY way you get to use the wimmin's rest room, and fer us to call you "m'am"
behave ANY WAY you want, but ya wanna coerce everyone else, then putup or shutup

also, if the rest of us wanna ridicule you, don't get yur pink panties in a twist
it's called FREEDOM, you behave how you want, and so can everyone else, it's not hurtful or even hateful for us to laugh at you
I actually think ya'll are funny in a sad kinda way
and I'd never consider putting ANY obstacle in yer chosen path to ridicule

America is after all a free country, where everything costs a lot
and this is really the only platform of The Lets Party (oh, and COMMUNISM, everything run by the workers instead of the capitalists!!)
but other than that...

as far as the border goes...
until I see MAGA types picking crops, and bangin nails
the border remains open, cuz I like vegetables and fruit picked by immigrants, and they did most of the labor in the local housing market

go back to the 19th century, immigrants always worked the jobs that were too low waged for natives
just like those same natives did, when THEY "came over"
and each generation, moved up a little

the Lets Party understands, the border ain't about immigration, it's about race and identity
the Lets Party evaluates people, based on the content of their character, and not the color of their skin
for example, Donald Trump is Orange, I don't care, but he's a selfish, patholical liar who rapes women and steals from others...
and shouldn't be in any position of trust

if ya'll can handle an orange man, i'm sure you'll be just fine with a brown one....

all you white people, seem paranoid about brown people comin to the USA to steal yur farm worker and construction jobs (and in the future be part of a growing democratic party demographic)
you know the brown people I'm talkin about, the ones whose land ya'll stole

let he who is without stones, cast the first sin
and above all else...
to thy own bookshelf be glue


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