Why we stopped dating AW, volume 12

[Gator]

Unless there is a physical reason for a lack of sex, a woman's desire usually wanes because:


a)  she is unhappy in the relationship.  This will have a direct effect on a couple's sex life for most women;
b)  her husband is not a good lover.  Women aren't going to tell their men this.  But it will lead to a direct lack of sex;
c)  her husband needs viagra;
d) she is no longer attracted to her husband; or
e)  she is gay.


This has nothing to do with being American.  It's pretty universal, I suspect.

Another item to add to your list is clinical depression.  Anti-depressants can reduce libido. 

[Gator]

Me?  I love family.  Marriage is worth it, so I kept marrying.      

Seriously, of all my friends the happiest seem to be those who have been married the longest, especially those still married to their first wife.   And the wives impress me as being very happy and fulfilled. 

[Boethius]

Another item to add to your list is clinical depression.  Anti-depressants can reduce libido.

Yes, as do most illnesses.

[Boethius]

Okay, since we have started this topic I will weigh in.  Why did I stop dating American Women:  Feminism is a cancer and plague all at the same time and it has ruined many of the women in America.  The no fault divorce is really his fault divorce and it allows AW to rape their husband financially.  There is greater than a 60% chance that an AW will divorce you because our society praises women for divorce and Hollywood puts women up on a pedestal for divorcing their husband and destroying their children's lives.

That is a myth.  Divorce rates have been falling since the 1980's.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html?smid=tw-share&abt=0002&abg=0&_r=2

American women do not offer stable relationships.  We have an epidemic in America of women on depression drugs and other mind altering drugs for anxiety and other made up issues.

It is no different for American men.  In fact, American men are more likely to abuse drugs.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/substance-use-in-women/sex-gender-differences-in-substance-use

Divorce law is a system which is ruthless beyond the capacity of any single individual's resistance; it is a mean system designed to chew you-up and spit you out for the woman's  exclusive benefit.

It is not exclusively for the benefit of women. 

The reason you have a divorce epidemic (assuming one accepts there is one) is a problem in your society.  It is not a problem of AW.  Or of AM.  It is deeper than that.  You can speculate all you want as to the reasons, but women are not the sole problem.

There is a poster who, years ago, claimed he was the divorced father of two young children when he started his search.  Recently, he denied their existence.  Do you think his example is one to emulate?  How do you think children who grow up seeing a parent make a new family with another spouse, while de facto discarding them, or denying their very existence, will navigate relationships?

Many AW are over weight and they have standards way beyond their level of attractiveness.

So what?  No one is forcing you to date them or sleep with them.

AW care more about maintaining their career than a good home and a good marriage. 

Most AW don't have careers.  Most are working pink collar jobs to ensure they and their families are not sleeping in their cars.

They have too many trashy tattoos and they sleep around and have dozens of sex partners.  Many AW do not know how to cook and maintain a home.  Friendships are fake and phony.  Women are conditioned to despise men and look down on them as fools, predators and criminals.  Many AW Women are selfish entitlement queens.  With AW you have to do endless talking about nothing.  If you're a real gambler and you're willing to risk marrying an American woman, at the very least insist on a prenuptial agreement.  Feminism is about women trying to be men without any responsibility. Feminism has left you with a pool of women who are truly insane.  Civilization exists because of the nuclear family. Certainly marriage has been tainted in the last 50 years, to the detriment of all, but if you make smart decisions you can cut down your risk tremendously.

I really have to ask what type of women you are exposed to.  There are over 100 million AW.  Not all are as you describe.  In fact, I doubt the majority are as you describe.  If that is the women you attract, then you should be looking at what, in you, attracts such women, rather than women of quality.

[Boethius]

And if you or any woman wants to live alone with her cats that is her business I totally agree.

A man with a modicum of self respect and testicular fortitude will avoid a feminist, that is not to say he will not show respect or allow a woman her opinion but what self respecting man wants to be around a feminazi?

American women have forgotten who passed the 19th Amendment to the Constitution. It was men who gave women the right to vote.

Please enlighten me as to how many women voted to pass the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution?

It was women who fought for that amendment, though, not men.


My husband is married to a feminist, and has no problems with it.  Perhaps men just have to be strong men to be married to women with opinions.

[BillyB]

Sounds to me like Linda B should be ok if the husband stepped out for some trysts...if he is up to it!


Fathertime!

I know a married guy who can't get it up anymore but doesn't want a divorce. He told he wife if she wants to get sex somewhere else, he'll agree to it.

[TigerPaws]

It was women who fought for that amendment, though, not men.


My husband is married to a feminist, and has no problems with it.  Perhaps men just have to be strong men to be married to women with opinions.

Agreed women wanted the right to vote, but it was men who decided to give it to them.

Personally it was one of the bigger mistakes of modern times. Feminism has all but destroyed traditional families, the concept that it is not the amount of time a woman spends with her children but the quality of that time is pure BS.

Concepts like that and far too many like it have begun the downfall of society as we know it. Of course if a woman has no desire for a family and children then she is more than welcome to be the neighborhood cat lady.

One of the many reasons we (men) seek out ladies from the FSU is because of their more traditional family values. Unlike far to many western women who value feminism over family.

[fathertime]

I didn't know society was THAT bad and going down the toilet...seems like things are going pretty good....I get the feeling some men don't want to give up any of their unwarranted power....  I'm glad my daughters can choose whatever path they want without roadblocks they may have encountered in the past. 


Fathertime!   

[TigerPaws]

[redfeather]

TigerPaws is spot on with the reasons why we date Russian women and FSU women.
These women place a high value on having a husband and a family and are taught traditional values.
The whole Russian culture teaches that a woman finds her highest fulfillment and joy in being a wife and mother.
Most women in the FSU have a college degree or are working on one. Many have knowledge (at least to a degree) of a 2nd or 3rd language. These ladies are very well educated.
She will pride herself on her appearance.
Russian women are beautiful, hot, sexy, attractive, seductive, charming, sociable, polite, educated, caring, loyal, hospitable, and last but not the least, family-oriented.
Russian women are extremely warm, approachable, friendly and sensual.
Russian women believe in relationships where two people become one team, and they have high loyalty to their man.
These are just a few of the reasons.

[TigerPaws]

TigerPaws is spot on with the reasons why we date Russian women and FSU women.
These women place a high value on having a husband and a family and are taught traditional values.
The whole Russian culture teaches that a woman finds her highest fulfillment and joy in being a wife and mother.
Most women in the FSU have a college degree or are working on one. Many have knowledge (at least to a degree) of a 2nd or 3rd language. These ladies are very educated.
She will pride herself on her appearance.
Russian women are beautiful, hot, sexy, attractive, seductive, charming, sociable, polite, educated, caring, loyal, hospitable, and last but not the least, family-oriented.
Russian women are extremely warm, approachable, friendly and sensual.
Russian women believe in relationships where two people become one team, and they have high loyalty to their man.
These are just a few of the reasons.

[Slumba]

Some ideas in third wave feminism are interesting and warranted, such as those that feminism didn't do much for women of colour or poor women.

I don't see a cult of victimology.

All ideas have positives and negatives.

Feminism was always about women with too much time on their hands choosing to be unhappy and unproductive instead of improving themselves and trying to move forwards. 

And you can only do that, when someone else is paying the bills, or, you have enough money to have the leisure time needed to spend being miserable.

Women who don't earn much have little use for feminism, which is essentially parasitic... it doesn't lead to greater productivity or  better job opportunities.

And when a couple are trying to earn or save more money because they are poor, it makes far more sense to be cooperative with each other than for the man and woman to be set at each others' throats, as feminism teaches.

[Boethius]

You guys are funny (in an unintended, by you, humorous way).

FSUW were "liberated" and had feminism long before WW did.  They were emancipated in the early 1920's.  Divorce was common, and could be instigated by either party.  The concept of free marriage, for a day, a week, a month, or longer, was introduced.   This existed until the late 1950's or early 1960's, when it was abolished not because people objected to it, or didn't use it, but because it was being used fraudulently to game the propiska system.

The notion that FSUW are more "family oriented" than are WW is also a stupid assertion.  Virtually all of the FSUW you are pursuing have at least one divorce in their past.  Some are still dating long term boyfriends or fiances almost until the day they marry their foreign husband, in order to "hedge their bets".  I'm not judging them, but it does negate that particular meme.

FSUW are better turned out than are AW, but then, FSUM who don't drink are better turned out than are AM.

The simplistic view that "feminism" destroyed the family is one proposed by people who aren't very deep thinkers.  For most individuals, world over, family is the most important thing in their lives.  It doesn't matter where they live or who they are.  This is what humans are hard wired for.  There will always be individuals for whom other things are of primary importance, be it money, or academic life, or a hedonistic life.  But they are the outliers. 

One of the many reasons we (men) seek out ladies from the FSU is because of their more traditional family values. Unlike far to many western women who value feminism over family.

BS.  Most WW do not value feminism over family. 

Feminism was always about women with too much time on their hands choosing to be unhappy and unproductive instead of improving themselves and trying to move forwards. 

No it wasn't.  My mother was young in the 1960's and 1970's.  The stories she tells of how women were treated are hair raising.  Society needed to change.

And you can only do that, when someone else is paying the bills, or, you have enough money to have the leisure time needed to spend being miserable.

What a crock.  I would hazard a guess you have never been poor.

Women who don't earn much have little use for feminism, which is essentially parasitic... it doesn't lead to greater productivity or  better job opportunities.

That is not true, although feminism has failed those women.

And when a couple are trying to earn or save more money because they are poor, it makes far more sense to be cooperative with each other than for the man and woman to be set at each others' throats, as feminism teaches.

Again, BS.  I am a feminist.  I have also been poor.  I have never been at the throat of my better half, nor he at mine.  I have never been at the throat of any man I worked with, either.

[mhr7]

TigerPaws is spot on with the reasons why we date Russian women and FSU women.
These women place a high value on having a husband and a family and are taught traditional values.
The whole Russian culture teaches that a woman finds her highest fulfillment and joy in being a wife and mother.
Most women in the FSU have a college degree or are working on one. Many have knowledge (at least to a degree) of a 2nd or 3rd language. These ladies are very well educated.
She will pride herself on her appearance.
Russian women are beautiful, hot, sexy, attractive, seductive, charming, sociable, polite, educated, caring, loyal, hospitable, and last but not the least, family-oriented.
Russian women are extremely warm, approachable, friendly and sensual.
Russian women believe in relationships where two people become one team, and they have high loyalty to their man.
These are just a few of the reasons.

It's a bit idealized (especially the one in bold) some Russian women will screw you over as easily as any any other woman. But RW are better overall than AW. I'll add that I think RW are a tad more prone to lying than AW as well. But they won't ever really admit to it.

[Trenchcoat]

Agreed women wanted the right to vote, but it was men who decided to give it to them.

Personally it was one of the bigger mistakes of modern times. Feminism has all but destroyed traditional families, the concept that it is not the amount of time a woman spends with her children but the quality of that time is pure BS.

Concepts like that and far too many like it have begun the downfall of society as we know it. Of course if a woman has no desire for a family and children then she is more than welcome to be the neighborhood cat lady.

One of the many reasons we (men) seek out ladies from the FSU is because of their more traditional family values. Unlike far to many western women who value feminism over family.

Absolutely spot on Tiger Paws, the picture above too. Our society US & UK has just gone so badly, badly wrong and I don't know if it can be reversed at all. I fear we have passed a point of no return, where more and more women are going to come under the spell of the feminist career driven ideology. This is not me whining as a man about my own particular position or standpoint but it is a real dilemma in our society that is apparent by all but seemingly unstoppable.

Like the Stalininst purges this feminist career driven agenda has seemed to take on a life of its own with no/little apparent opposing force capable of hindering its momentum. Time and again there are news reports in the UK how women should be treated like this or that, should get this or that, the audacity of not being able to barge there way to the top of the career ladder on a feminist led crusade. All the while us men are supposed to meekly give way and even support these feminist demands for fear of being viewed as heretical outcasts.

Where this is all headed can not be at all anywhere pleasant, what happens when the woman gets passed child bearing age, ends up old & alone in her 40s & 50s well before retirement age. What about the motivation behind anyone doing well at work if there is nothing to live for. What about families dying out with no-one to pass anything onto. I don't think many women think about any of this, they don't see it as they are in their 20s & 30s but its all just coming around the corner.

Looking abroad for me and probably most others is not the most convenient dating option, sure it can be fun, but there simply is no alternative for us. The women here are not soft like RW and they have little wanting to be with a man (at the moment) instead they have made themselves fat and unattractive. Almost half of girls leaving primarily school (11-ish age) here in the UK are now classed as obese (to varying extents) this figure & obesity level gets worse as they progress through high school & into adulthood.

So, very few men have a good option when looking to the pool of women to date, you see fat women everywhere here now, from the just mildly-moderately fat which are a fair number to the real monster fatties among the women. Girls with thighs & legs like tree trunks are a common unfortunate sight. Just last night I saw on the news the closure of BHS (a British retail store chain) with a group of female workers outside, mostly young but nearly all were to varying extents fat. Fat women are now just endemic in our society. I wish I could go back and hide in the early-mid nineties when we did not have this female obesity problem. I for one will not make myself fat due to lack of decent available women, the look of so much fat on a body just terrifies me.

For me and many other men going to places in the FSU is the only way. Importing women into the country to replace the fatties that couldn't give a damn is an extreme way to solve the lack of decent women problem, but it is at least an option and I am grateful for that. We have in any case no other options available to us, a fat women is just vomit inducing for me, fine to talk to but I could not get with one. The only other way is a reversal of current trends and I see no sign of that.

My biggest fear is that I bring a RW over here and she gets too influenced by western society, by feminism and the female fat culture. It would be horrific to see a decent girl go into the decadency of gluttony & flabbiness and/or become a harsh career driven man hating uncaring individual. That I would hate to see happen to any women, particularly one I cared about and perhaps unfortunately brought into contact with current western cultural values. That is why if I am successful in this search I am going to be very careful about wht the women is exposed to, by whom and in contact with, without I hope being a control freak.           

[TigerPaws]

You guys are funny (in an unintended, by you, humorous way).

FSUW were "liberated" and had feminism long before WW did.  They were emancipated in the early 1920's.  Divorce was common, and could be instigated by either party.  The concept of free marriage, for a day, a week, a month, or longer, was introduced.   This existed until the late 1950's or early 1960's, when it was abolished not because people objected to it, or didn't use it, but because it was being used fraudulently to game the propiska system.

The notion that FSUW are more "family oriented" than are WW is also a stupid assertion.  Virtually all of the FSUW you are pursuing have at least one divorce in their past.  Some are still dating long term boyfriends or fiances almost until the day they marry their foreign husband, in order to "hedge their bets".  I'm not judging them, but it does negate that particular meme.

FSUW are better turned out than are AW, but then, FSUM who don't drink are better turned out than are AM.

The simplistic view that "feminism" destroyed the family is one proposed by people who aren't very deep thinkers.  For most individuals, world over, family is the most important thing in their lives.  It doesn't matter where they live or who they are.  This is what humans are hard wired for.  There will always be individuals for whom other things are of primary importance, be it money, or academic life, or a hedonistic life.  But they are the outliers. 

BS.  Most WW do not value feminism over family. 

No it wasn't.  My mother was young in the 1960's and 1970's.  The stories she tells of how women were treated are hair raising.  Society needed to change.

What a crock.  I would hazard a guess you have never been poor.

That is not true, although feminism has failed those women.

Again, BS.  I am a feminist.  I have also been poor.  I have never been at the throat of my better half, nor he at mine.  I have never been at the throat of any man I worked with, either.

Feminism and modern Liberalism are very much alike both share the goal of destroying the Nuclear Family.

Case in point:

Black Lives Matter Vows to Destroy the “Nuclear Family”In favor of communitarian 'collective care'

The official ‘Black Lives Matter’ website vows to destroy the nuclear family and replace it with communitarian-style collective parenting.

“We are committed to disrupting the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, and especially “our” children to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable,” states BlackLivesMatter.com on its “guiding principles” page.

The notion of collective communities being responsible for children and not parents is an idea that has been pushed by the leftist establishment before, most notably during a piece for MSNBC by Melissa Harris-Perry in which she said the notion that kids belonging to their parents was outdated.

httphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjczwQOnMqg://

The pledge once again serves as a reminder that the BLM movement – funded by billionaire white elitist George Soros – is a Marxist front to sabotage western values

Instead of encouraging strong parenting in the black community, which has been ravaged by the scourge of single parent households and illegitimacy, BLM is telling them that the traditional nuclear family is a bad thing and that they should relinquish control of their children.

Diminishing the power held by parents to bring up their own children as they see fit also plays into attempts by the federal government to eviscerate parental rights.

The U.S. Federal Government is seeking to create a new bureaucracy that would intervene in family life and could even see state-appointed monitors conduct routine home visits to assess a child’s well-being.

The U.S. Department of Education and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) outlined a plan that will see families treated as “equal partners” in the raising of children, opening the door for government intrusion at all levels.

Black Lives Matter, Liberalism and Feminism are all made of the same cloth, their stated goal is to destroy the Nuclear Family. While you Boethius might not want to believe what you say you are for the most pat totally wrong.

Like myself and a number of American men I personally know we looked outside of America because of what modern feminism has done to the beliefs and attitudes of modern women. We have experienced numerous social situations where my wife and the Russian wives of those we know were denigrated because they chose family over career. All of the Russian women like my wife are highly educated in both Russia and here in the U.S., any one of then could have had a successful career yet to a Lady they chose to stay home and take care of their children and family.

This is what Feminism and Liberalism hates and works with a compliant media and educational system to stop. Modern feminism has become a disease and you Boethius seem to believe it is something to be praised, men with Testicular Fortitude, men with the intelligence and will to no longer accept propaganda around them are those who are seeking more traditional ladies from the FSU.

[Boethius]

Black Lives Matter, Liberalism and Feminism are all made of the same cloth, their stated goal is to destroy the Nuclear Family. While you Boethius might not want to believe what you say you are for the most pat totally wrong.
Like myself and a number of American men I personally know we looked outside of America because of what modern feminism has done to the beliefs and attitudes of modern women. We have experienced numerous social situations where my wife and the Russian wives of those we know were denigrated because they chose family over career. All of the Russian women like my wife are highly educated in both Russia and here in the U.S., any one of then could have had a successful career yet to a Lady they chose to stay home and take care of their children and family.

This is what Feminism and Liberalism hates and works with a compliant media and educational system to stop. Modern feminism has become a disease and you Boethius seem to believe it is something to be praised, men with Testicular Fortitude, men with the intelligence and will to no longer accept propaganda around them are those who are seeking more traditional ladies from the FSU.

I have never known a woman who has been denigrated for choosing family over career.  I suspect other things were at play. 

The nuclear family historically has not been the epicenter of a successful family.  Families usually included grandparents, who usually lived with parents.  The "nuclear family" you praise is a fairly recent phenomenom. 

I don't follow BLM, but neither liberalism nor feminism is about destruction of the nuclear family.

How is a woman who has at least one divorce under her belt, who often rejects and even resents the children of her husband (from previous marriages), and who leaves her own family - her parents and siblings - to move abroad and see them rarely, "traditional"?  She isn't, at least not in my definition of traditional.

You are a symptom of the sickness in your society, TP.  You just fail to see that.

[Steamer]

My biggest fear is that I bring a RW over here and she gets too influenced by western society, by feminism and the female fat culture. It would be horrific to see a decent girl go into the decadency of gluttony & flabbiness and/or become a harsh career driven man hating uncaring individual. That I would hate to see happen to any women, particularly one I cared about and perhaps unfortunately brought into contact with current western cultural values. That is why if I am successful in this search I am going to be very careful about wht the women is exposed to, by whom and in contact with, without I hope being a control freak.         

How are you going to do that without being a control freak? How can you prevent media influence?
The more you try to control her life the more you will lose control.

[Gator]

The notion that FSUW are more "family oriented" than are WW is also a stupid assertion.  Virtually all of the FSUW you are pursuing have at least one divorce in their past.  Some are still dating long term boyfriends or fiances almost until the day they marry their foreign husband, in order to "hedge their bets".  I'm not judging them, but it does negate that particular meme.

My experiences in comparison with AW (based on having  been married for 40 years to a broad sample, and rarely not having a close relationship between marriages).   
 
     -  The FSUW's family unit is more central to their social lives.   

     -  FSUW tend to be more skeptical.   For example, it is their tradition to not celebrate something before it is officially confirmed.  I believe this is a cultural phenomenon derived from a century of experiencing economic instabilities, political upheavals,  minimal government safety nets, etc. more severe than what Americans have experienced.  Thus, they may feel it is prudent to hedge their bets as you say.

     -  FSUW are more critical  if a husband falls short of their expectations.  And (this is the best part) if he meets their expectations, they are more appreciative. 

I said "my experiences."  YMMV because women vary.  Also, men vary too, and a woman may behave differently with one man than another.     

[Gator]

FSUW are better turned out than are AW, but then, FSUM who don't drink are better turned out than are AM.

If that were true, Russia given its natural resources would have developed into the greatest country in the world.  Maybe you merely feel that about the men and women you know in your slice of the world.  I am open to proof, or even some elaboration.

[Boethius]

Absolutely spot on Tiger Paws, the picture above too. Our society US & UK has just gone so badly, badly wrong and I don't know if it can be reversed at all. I fear we have passed a point of no return, where more and more women are going to come under the spell of the feminist career driven ideology. This is not me whining as a man about my own particular position or standpoint but it is a real dilemma in our society that is apparent by all but seemingly unstoppable.

Most women are not, in fact, career driven.  However, economies are such that most women do, in fact, have to work.

Where this is all headed can not be at all anywhere pleasant, what happens when the woman gets passed child bearing age, ends up old & alone in her 40s & 50s well before retirement age. What about the motivation behind anyone doing well at work if there is nothing to live for. What about families dying out with no-one to pass anything onto. I don't think many women think about any of this, they don't see it as they are in their 20s & 30s but its all just coming around the corner.

This again, is a societal issue.  It is driven more by economics than feminism.  UW and RW aren't having babies in their 20's and 30's either, and that has been the case since the 1970's.  The reason is because of the difficulties in raising children when you don't have enough money to do so. 

Looking abroad for me and probably most others is not the most convenient dating option, sure it can be fun, but there simply is no alternative for us. The women here are not soft like RW and they have little wanting to be with a man (at the moment) instead they have made themselves fat and unattractive. Almost half of girls leaving primarily school (11-ish age) here in the UK are now classed as obese (to varying extents) this figure & obesity level gets worse as they progress through high school & into adulthood.

RW soft?  BWAHAHAHAHAHA.  You are really barking up the tree on that one.

So, very few men have a good option when looking to the pool of women to date, you see fat women everywhere here now, from the just mildly-moderately fat which are a fair number to the real monster fatties among the women. Girls with thighs & legs like tree trunks are a common unfortunate sight. Just last night I saw on the news the closure of BHS (a British retail store chain) with a group of female workers outside, mostly young but nearly all were to varying extents fat. Fat women are now just endemic in our society. I wish I could go back and hide in the early-mid nineties when we did not have this female obesity problem. I for one will not make myself fat due to lack of decent available women, the look of so much fat on a body just terrifies me.


For me and many other men going to places in the FSU is the only way. Importing women into the country to replace the fatties that couldn't give a damn is an extreme way to solve the lack of decent women problem, but it is at least an option and I am grateful for that. We have in any case no other options available to us, a fat women is just vomit inducing for me, fine to talk to but I could not get with one. The only other way is a reversal of current trends and I see no sign of that.

So don't say it is feminism that is driving you to look abroad.  From your own post, it isn't.

My biggest fear is that I bring a RW over here and she gets too influenced by western society, by feminism and the female fat culture. It would be horrific to see a decent girl go into the decadency of gluttony & flabbiness and/or become a harsh career driven man hating uncaring individual. That I would hate to see happen to any women, particularly one I cared about and perhaps unfortunately brought into contact with current western cultural values. That is why if I am successful in this search I am going to be very careful about wht the women is exposed to, by whom and in contact with, without I hope being a control freak.         

You can't control that which your partner is exposed to.  You either have to trust your partner 100%, and give her free will in everything, or abandon the idea of marrying a foreigner completely.

[Boethius]

If that were true, Russia given its natural resources would have developed into the greatest country in the world.  Maybe you merely feel that about the men and women you know in your slice of the world.  I am open to proof, or even some elaboration.

Better turned out in how they dress.  Shoes are polished, nails are trimmed, clothes are clean. 

[Boethius]

My experiences in comparison with AW (based on having  been married for 40 years to a broad sample, and rarely not having a close relationship between marriages).   
 
     -  The FSUW's family unit is more central to their social lives.   

That is historical, because you could not trust people outside your immediate family circle.  In fact, sometimes, family members were informing on one another.

     -  FSUW tend to be more skeptical.   For example, it is their tradition to not celebrate something before it is officially confirmed.  I believe this is a cultural phenomenon derived from a century of experiencing economic instabilities, political upheavals,  minimal government safety nets, etc. more severe than what Americans have experienced.  Thus, they may feel it is prudent to hedge their bets as you say.

No, it is again a Soviet thing.  If you knew Russians or Ukrainians who did not live under Soviet rule, you would notice the difference.

[Gator]

Better turned out in how they dress.  Shoes are polished, nails are trimmed, clothes are clean.

Okay.  I was thinking of something loftier.   Even so, I had to show my stepson how to use paste polish on his shoes rather than liquid.  He is in Jr. ROTC and must "spit polish" his shoes. 

[Gator]

Black Lives Matter Vows to Destroy the “Nuclear Family”In favor of communitarian 'collective care'

The official ‘Black Lives Matter’ website vows to destroy the nuclear family and replace it with communitarian-style collective parenting.

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I have not seen such a policy expressed by BLM, yet it could be a strategy born out of necessity considering the high rate of illegitimacy in the inner city.  Collective parenting could be implemented now.  In contrast, reestablishing the nuclear family would require a generation if not more (20-30 years).