The Struggle For Ukraine

[Trenchcoat]

This is one piece of advice I entirely agree with for the EU on Ukraine:

http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/29/borrell-issues-final-warning-eu-has-reached-breaking-point-in-ukraine

The EU has to realise that letting Russia win would be extremely bad for it and that it's going to take some effort and quick decisive action to really get resources put into action and fully behind Ukraine.

I don't think the EU would have to support Ukraine heavily for long but Ukraine definitely needs to be heavily supported over the next 6 months or so. After that Russia will likely be really running out of steam and not able to continue the pace of war in Ukraine as it has been.

Russia is easily beatable if the EU puts a lot of resources heavily behind Ukraine. However as Borrel points out in the article the EU is not known for being able to act quick and decisively it can unfortunately be slow and not always so effective. It's part of the reason why the UK left the EU and a big Achilles heel of the EU.

For the EU being able to move to being more quicker and effective and coming to terms with the danger Russia poses to itself if it wins in Ukraine is something the EU needs to do. The EU have a lot of money and power but if I to can't bring that to bear when needed then it's long term viability may be in question. On paper the EU both economically and militarily can easily beat Russia in Ukraine by supporting Ukraine but as Borrel points out it's slowness and lack of realisation of the need for haste and quick effective organisation threatens to hand Russia a win. That I believe would be a terrible shame as the cracks are starting to show in Russia's economy.

The risk is that Russia wins by a bad peace treaty for Ukraine just before the point of Russia failing apart in the next few months next year. Ukraine can win this war if the EU are determined enough to win this war for Ukraine. Even the UK could single handedly help support Ukraine to win this war next year if it really dug deep and threw huge amount of finance and military assistance behind Ukraine from now going forward.

So far their has really only been Boris Johnson that has acted in decisive support of Ukraine. Even then not enough support came forward as it could have been. We could and still could give Ukraine many more of our Challenger 2 tanks that are due to be replaced by Challenger 3 tanks very soon anyway and countless other bits of military hardware. Kier Starmer doesn't face another General Election for over four years so has the ability to not worry too much what immediate public opinion is on Ukraine if he wishes to stop Russia. The problem is that Kier Starmer may not be any more quicker and decisive than the EU as he is in that direction thinking wise himself.

I personally think one last push by the EU and the UK to help Ukraine hold out that but longer next year and thereby win this war is possible but lackluster effort and a lack of realisation of the greater threat that Russia posses if it wins seems to be prevalent in both the EU and the UK again the moment. Ukraine's forces need serious bolstering both financially and militarily to be sure of them holding on long enough next year to see Russia start failing apart before it's eyes, it's easily doable if both are able to bring themselves to action.

[krimster2]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-s-envoy-proposes-peace-plan-which-includes-lifting-sanctions-against-russia-cnn/ar-AA1uZYSS?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=ac7b436d006b428a8f2e97db50ec5fe3&ei=66

Trump is already talkin about gettin rid of Russian sanctions...of course he is....just like I told ya....he's the man who sells real estate to Russians
he's the man who's gonna sell Ukraine to Putin

between now and Jan20, Ukraine's Western supporters will give them as much military and economic AID as they can, which will last a few more months at most after January

after Trump sells Ukraine to Putin in January
European oligarchs will push europe with trump's help to do the same thing
trump is gonna get paid bigly by putin
they both are in BIG trouble, and each of them needs the other to bail them out

remember, it's for "PEACE" not avarice

and it's not about a global oligarchy, oh no, there's no such thing, right?

european oligarchs want russian oil and gas and Russian laundery money to, just like Trump does
and they're gonna sign whatever deal with putin that needs to be signed to get it just like Trump will


imagine somone who wakes up from a coma
and finds out that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are in charge of the American governemnt and economy and are reorganising it
back to the way it was before the 1930s Democratic "New Deal"

they'd probably wanna go back to being comatose

this is gonna be greeat fun to watch, it's the quiet before the storm
wait for the shit storm in 2 months
when Trump and Elon destroy America
wouldn't you like to hear the phone conversations between Putin and Trump/Elon
notice how Putin is kissin Trump's ass now?
it's becuz Trump/Elon and Putin are gonna be doin bizness SOON!!!

I can't wait until you rednecks all find out that Trump was lying to you ALL about EVERYTHING
and that he and Elon are really just there to line their own pockets and carve up the pie
while they make war on the American poor and middle class while making peace with Putin

watch and see...

and then when that happens
all you rednecks will come crawling back to me

"HELP US KRIMSTER", they'll say.....
well, ya know what...real sorry to hear about yur problems, but I'm busy
don't let the door hit yur ass on the way out


PS

so ladies and germs
I'll bottom line it fer ya

next summer travel will be back on in Russia and Ukraine
you'll wanna go!!!
WHY?
cuz everyone will be manic and everything will be dirt cheap over there
and scaredy cats don't have to be afraid of drones

only problem is, at least in the USA, they're all gonna be "BROKE but not WOKE"

i'd like to have a place in Western Ukraine to use as a travel hub to Europe via RAIL
it's just so much nicer NOT to fly and not have to deal with airports
still a gazillion places on my to see list, plus my old favorites like Rome, even Hotel food is GOOD there!!!
wife can carry luggage now, she's a strapping Ukrainian village girl, can carry what 3 average women can carry and push people out of the way for me
a perfect travel companion, who neither snores nor steals the covers
and shares my same food preferences
and carries an italian 7" stiletto for me high up on her inside right thigh

CUZ THEY ALWAYS FRISK ME, BUT NOBODY EVER FRISKS MY WIFE, if she's wearing a short mini-skirt,
this is why we work well together
what in the intelligence community is called a "salt and pepper" team
two opposites
an american man and a ukrainian woman
who work as a close-knit team
which "outfit" do ya'll think we used to work for?
hehe
before we went rogue

[2tallbill]

I don't think the EU would have to support Ukraine heavily for long but Ukraine definitely needs to be heavily supported over the next 6 months or so. After that Russia will likely be really running out of steam and not able to continue the pace of war in Ukraine as it has been.

Russia is easily beatable if the EU puts a lot of resources heavily behind Ukraine. However as Borrel points out in the article the EU is not known for being able to act quick and decisively it can unfortunately be slow and not always so effective. It's part of the reason why the UK left the EU and a big Achilles heel of the EU.

The EU is as decisive as a 16 year old girl deciding on which dress to wear to the big dance. They are as
confident as several 16 year old girls who woke up the morning of the dance with a big pimple on their
nose.

The EU needs to be led to do the right thing, (Biden led them). They are too insecure to just come out and
do it themselves, so they will dither, delay then wring their hands. Then do too little too late (just like Biden
did).

[krimster2]

the european energy consortium that co-sponsored north stream will push european leaders into russia's corner after Trump does
otherwise USA oil companies will get all the spoils through Trump,
oil industry gotta pay trump to, like putin, to close the circle
trump gets paid by Russians and us oil
they shoulda given him the billion when he asked, now it'll be ten times that

[Trenchcoat]

The EU is as decisive as a 16 year old girl deciding on which dress to wear to the big dance. They are as
confident as several 16 year old girls who woke up the morning of the dance with a big pimple on their
nose.

The EU needs to be led to do the right thing, (Biden led them). They are too insecure to just come out and
do it themselves, so they will dither, delay then wring their hands. Then do too little too late (just like Biden
did).

I fear you are correct Bill. Even when faced with the Russian threat that the EU could see off they may be too lacking to get the effort needed together. It wouldn't necessarily take a lot for long. They will probably only need to be at it for a year or so at most. Russia is already three years in and about to go into its fourth year of waging war. It would be silly to appease Putler when he is nearing defeat.

This way the EU is it's poor organisation and poor willpower were one of the reasons of many the UK chose to leave the EU.

One source out today that is more heartening at least is from NATO:

http://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/12/03/nato-must-focus-on-military-aid-for-ukraine-not-peace-deal-says-alliance-chief-mark-rutte

I was pleased to see that NATO chief Mark Rutte isn't up for giving in to Putler and I think can see how near Russia is to defeat if the willpower can be summoned together to carry on and get Ukraine the backing it needs for that bit longer. If NATO can lead the organisation effort in Europe then they might be able to mobilise the EU into action, we can only wish!

I know many think the US is NATO but it is in reality more than that, a large collection of members many of which are also EU members. If Trump sits on the sidelines on NATO or decides to pull the US out of NATO it will still be potentially a very effective force and organisation that could organise EU financial and militarial assistance against Ukraine.

I am certainly hoping that countries will follow the call by Mark Rutte and step forward to give more to help defeat Russia.

[2tallbill]

It would be silly to appease Putler when he is nearing defeat.

I was pleased to see that NATO chief Mark Rutte isn't up for giving in to Putler and I think can see how near Russia is to defeat if the willpower can be summoned together to carry on and get Ukraine the backing it needs for that bit longer.
I am certainly hoping that countries will follow the call by Mark Rutte and step forward to give more to help defeat Russia.

Putin is NOT near defeat. Why do you think so? Russia has more of everything, more men,
bullets, tanks, anti aircraft, missiles, artillery, shells, money and time than Ukraine does. They
probably have less training, they are on offense, where you tend to lose more men. Their 
leaders don't care about their lives, they are less motivated.

This war is a horrible meat grinder killing and destroying lives.

[krimster2]

Putin lost moldova
he's losing georgia and he won't get those caspian pipelines back
and he's losing syria and their pipelines
his ally Iran is down cuz of israel and can't help him out in syria cuz of that
his other ally North Korea is useless

the Russian economy is a shambles cuz of the war, it's barely functioning
average Russians are totally phuqued cuz of the war, and if they complain, they'll be on the front line

Putin needs Trump to end the war, to stop the massive financial losses in Ukraine that he can't afford
and Putin needs Trump to get rid of all sanctions on Russia to stop the fall of the russian economy
Trump needs Putin's oil and gas so he can sell it to American oil and gas and get a "small fee"
Trump and Putin don't give a flyin phuque about how many gopnicks die

the money changers are gonna crucify zelensky

Mussolini and Hitler
Putin and Trump

stoopid phuqued up humans never freakin learn a damned thing

[2tallbill]

the Russian economy is a shambles cuz of the war

Putin needs Trump to end the war, to stop the losses in Ukraine
and Putin needs Trump to get rid of all sanctions on Russia to stop the fall of the russian economy
Trump and Putin don't give a flyin phuque about how many gopnicks die

Mussolini and Hitler
Putin and Trump

stoopid phuqued up humans never freakin learn a thing

What was Bidens plan? trickle in beans, guns and bullets, at a slow enough rate that
Ukraine would never get ahead? It worked.

You don't know what Trump will do. You are making silly speculations like you did about
mankind dying of Covid.

There are a hundred pressure points Trump can leverage.

[krimster2]

more BS
everything bad is Biden's fault, only good flows from Trump does it?
I wonder which right wing oligarch owned web site fed ya all this BS

Trump's already said what he's gonna do in "Trump Speak" "I give one side all the money, and the other side none"
which is EXACTLY what I told ya,

Ukraine will be Trump's "sale of a lifetime"
Putin will bail out Trump from all his financial problems as Trump bails out his beloved Putin

Biden's first responsibility is to the USA
remember how he waited to shoot down the chinese weather balloon over water
biden employed the same caution in Ukraine
Biden would give AID to Ukraine THEN measure russia's response and measure how well ukraine performed with the AID

blowback from helping afghanistan defeat Russia was that we helped create the Taliban
biden's caution in ukraine meant we don't have blowback from helping Ukraine like we did in afghanistan
either from ukrainians or russians

no one has done as much for Ukraine as biden has, no one

yur still stuck thinking this is a Republican vrs Democrat struggle
it's not

this is a class struggle as described by Marx nearly two centuries ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_conflict

an international oligarchy of organized crime and money launderers combined with other global oligarch partners
in a struggle with the working classes in America, Russia, Ukraine

and yur too fookin blind and brainwashed by right wing media to see it

[Trenchcoat]

Putin is NOT near defeat. Why do you think so? Russia has more of everything, more men,
bullets, tanks, anti aircraft, missiles, artillery, shells, money and time than Ukraine does. They
probably have less training, they are on offense, where you tend to lose more men. Their 
leaders don't care about their lives, they are less motivated.

This war is a horrible meat grinder killing and destroying lives.

Putler is losing Artillery faster than he can replace it. Ukraine has Western Artillery, in smaller numbers yes, but more accurate and with a farther range than Russian Artillery. That means Ukrainian Artillery can accurately hit Russian Artillery from a greater range outside the range of Russian Artillery. So Ukraine then has a high success rate of taking out Russian Artillery. Add on top of that Russian Artillery exploding from poorly made North Korean Shells or over use, etc.

It takes just moments for a Russian Artillery piece to be destroyed on the battlefield. Russia can produce and ship a new piece of Artillery to the front in moments, same with tanks.

So how long can Russia keep up with replacing that rate of loss in Artillery? Answer, so long as Soviet Artillery stockpiles remain. Soviet stockpiles aren't inexhaustible or so large anymore and they aren't going to remain forever.

Since the start of the war Ukraine has destroyed thousands of Russian (old Soviet) Artillery pieces. The once mighty Russian Army that could rival the US on paper at least in terms of Armaments stockpiles is no more. Russia are just one step away from their Artillery upon which they so depend from running out and a rather embarrassing and awkward moment descending.

Some idiots out there want 'peace' with Russia that treats Russia as the victor, as if they are so mighty that we have to concede to Russia. Russia is about to be broken in about six months of so time and they wish to negotiate away a win for Ukraine.

The Russian Army might look like they are in the offensive now but it is but an illusion that won't last, they aren't going to be able to keep it up and about six months or so more of it will expose their weaknesses for all to see. Think Rocky 3 where Sylvester Stallone has to wait until Mr T tires himself out then takes him out. That's what Ukraine is doing at the moment, Russia is constantly throwing all they have at Ukraine but is only taking land at a very slow pace and small amounts of it. Russia at some point is going to get tired out, it's a bad strategy that Russia is using and will hand them their ass soon.

Ukraine doesn't have to beat Russian forces in the field for them rto win against Russia. Ukraine just needs to grind Russian Artillery down so much that they lose Artillery superiority. Once that is done Russia is largely toothless in conventional military terms. It got an Army stuck in Ukraine that won't be able to make any progress against Ukraine's Army. That's where Ukraine starts winning, by making it pointless for the Russian Army being there anymore. At that point Russia has no longer got a big arsenal of Artillery to threaten the world with and inflict crushing defeat of opponents like they did to rebel forces in Syria. Russia are then a spent force and it then just a waiting hand till the penny drops and they throw in the towel and quit Ukraine.

That's what the West should commit too, not to entertaining silly notions of thinking they need to come to terms with Putler. The terms won't be any good and Putler will be back another day to try again, if not in Ukraine then elsewhere. I would say don't let Putler chuckle away from being handed a victory through a peace treaty when he is fast heading towards a defeat, the cracks are already there if you look for them.

[krimster2]

the outcome of the war will NOT be decided on the battlefield nor the "playing Fields of Eaton"
the battlefield will only determine how far Ukraine's border with Russia will be moved West

the outcome of the war, will be decided by money$$$$
Putin will buy victory in Ukraine from Trump
Trump is "the man who sold the world"

[krimster2]

putin's last big move will be to try and take Zaporizhzhia cuz he'll get a big chunk of Ukraine's electrical generation
he has maybe 2 months to try and get it

[2tallbill]

the european energy consortium that co-sponsored north stream will push european leaders into russia's corner after Trump does
otherwise USA oil companies will get all the spoils through Trump,
oil industry gotta pay trump to, like putin, to close the circle
trump gets paid by Russians and us oil
they shoulda given him the billion when he asked, now it'll be ten times that

Get your facts straight, Trump told them not to do the Nord Stream 2
Now according to you, he's in favor of it?

Trump verbally spanks Germany over gas pipeline deal

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump launched a sharp public attack on
Germany on Wednesday for supporting a Baltic Sea gas pipeline deal with Russia,
saying Berlin had become "a captive to Russia"

"If you look at it, Germany is a captive of Russia. They got rid of their coal plants,
they got rid of their nuclear, they're getting so much of their oil and gas from Russia.
I think it is something NATO has to look at. It is very inappropriate."
http://www.reuters.com/article/markets/currencies/trump-lashes-germany-over-gas-pipeline-deal-calls-it-russias-captive-idUSKBN1K10VH/

Whoops! You said that Trump is Putin's puppet. I think Angela Merkin was Putin's puppet.

[krimster2]

cuz Trump wants Americans to own it and not germanski....
why?
cuz that way HE gets a piece, Germans won't pay him anything for North Stream, it's half theirs to begin with, they just let Russians use their banks to pay Trump
remember how his fixer lawyer Cohen collected payments for Trump

this deal was worked out at the Mar-a-Lago Club
http://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-influence/2024/12/03/investor-lobbies-up-to-sell-nord-stream-takeover-bid-00192453
"The Art of The Con"
you think Trump makes deals without bein involved himself or through a family proxy?

this will be just one of the MANY presents for Trump when he sells Ukraine to Putin
Trump can do ANYTHING he wants, he is criminally immune, the Supreme Court said so!

the only thing that could screw this up
is if Zelensky doesn't sign the property transfer of eastern ukraine to putin
but with Trump squuezing, I think he'll sign

how many schmucks lie dead in the ground now
just so Trump can walk away with the money

who will help Ukraine rebuild?
I assume it'll be the same people who paid for rebuilding the sarcophogus on Chernobil (TWICE!)
but the west is gonna be broke after next year
maybe they can have a GoFundMe and compete with Americans seeking help for medical costs after Elon cuts federal health care dollars
just a suggestion


next year, Trump voters will all be askin just ONE THING!!!
Brother, can you spare a dime?


the most under-rated woman in America
just might be the woman who was the translator, at Trump's private 2+ hour meeting with Putin in Helsinki, who Trump made sign an NDA just like Stormy Daniels for "some reason"


Europe has a clever solution, create a loan to Ukraine secured by a lien of the $200 billion confiscated russian money they control
ukraine gets the money, awwww, but sorry,  since there's a lien on it, Russia can't get it back
any Jewish consultant fresh outta yeshiva woulda handed ya that, right off the bat,
Trump will block the USA from doin that

cemetaries full of dead
ruined cities
orphaned kids

all that....
for nothin...

it's like Jesus was put up on the cross for no other outcome
than that the money changers simply went back to cheatin folks on the temple steps again
with the "sanctuary shekel" scam, which was OLD in Jesus's time

now it's like banks and real estate

Zelensky will be the Jew the money changers/launderers will nail to the cross

Rome will fall
and we will enter a "Dark Age"


it's a good thing that I released a tank of low salt tolerant sea monkeys into the black sea when I did
Russians even CAUGHT ME DOING IT, and were like WTF are you doin?
the fact that there was a foreigner doin something weird was REALLY freakin 'em out

privet tovarishche!!!!eta moira mɐkakə...vidisch....
they look at me wide eyed and slowly backed away

Krimster Children's Song

THAT
was the day, I set my Sea Monkeys free
and there were Sea Monkeys swimming
in the Azov Sea

sung while gently strumming a ukulele

[Trenchcoat]

This info from a surrendered Russian soldier tells us Russia's army ain't all that and not a force to be feared. More that they are desperate and using poor battlefield tactics in the hope that they will overcome Ukraine's forces. Russia are beatable and the West would be better holding out for that:

http://english.nv.ua/amp/russian-marine-surrenders-in-kursk-oblast-reveals-what-s-happening-in-russia-s-army-50471873.html


This second article tells us what I have been predicting is already happening, the amount of Artillery Russia can field on the front is going down and already seemingly significantly. If Ukraine can continue the good work they are doing in knocking out Russian Artillery then they'll take the offensive ability out of the Russian Army:

http://news.sky.com/story/russias-ability-to-outmatch-ukraine-with-artillery-on-battlefield-significantly-reduced-13267663


Russia is now using glide bombs to compensate but they are unlikely to fully compensate for the loss of its Artillery. The writing is in the wall for the Russian Army and it's only so long before the Russian Army starts talking apart. Hopefully Ukraine will get able to show this before Trump gets into Office. If the Russian Army appears broken then I think Ukraine will enjoy renewed support from the West as they show that Russian Forces are nothing to be feared anymore.

Holding on in Ukraine really is the best for Ukraine and for the West I think.

Maybe even Trump will come to see the opportunities that a win for Ukraine could bring him and the US if Russia ends up in dire straits and in need and instead chooses to back Ukraine.

[krimster2]

if Trump doesn't give a phuque about the American poor and middle class (despite professing his undying love for them)
how much will he care about Ukrainians?

HORRIBLE condition of the russian military doesn't matter
declining number of cannons doesn't matter
cuz next month, Putin's Secret Weapon will be deployed
Donald Trump is Putin's Secret Weapon of Mass Destruction
and he'll use it against Ukraine AND the USA

First, Trump cuts all funding and military cooperation with Ukraine
then Putin will dictate the treaty to Trump
and Trump will hand it to Zelensky
Treaty sez Putin gets EVERYTHING, and Ukraine gets a "get well soon" card signed by Trump they can sell on Ebay
sign it Zelensky or millions of yur people will die

that's how it's "going down" next month
imagine yur father, son, brother, died for Ukraine
how will ya feel when they're sold to the man who killed 'em

[Trenchcoat]

Looks like things aren't going well for Putler's ally Assad in Syria:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0x1n996z4o

Ground is being lost fast to Rebel forces and the Syrian Army is falling back everywhere.

Russia's hands are tied and only have a few planes to bomb rebel forces, and possibly limited bombs? So far they have hit rebel forces a few times but the rebels still keep on advancing.

This time it may be all over for pencil head Assad. If so that will be one Putler ally down and his Russian fleet will have to leave Syria with nowhere in the Mediterranean to pull up for resupply, refit, repair, etc. That will weaken Putler still further. The Syrian Rebels have seen that Putler is very weakened now having to bring in North Korean forces and they are making their move.

Losing Syria as an ally would mean Putler would only have North Korea and Iran left as firm allies. I personally think Israel and the West could easily take on Iran to get rid of that menace. North Korea is a small country and could probably be left to weaken itself quickly by supporting Russia too much and potentially destabilising itself at home. The Ukrainian war sucks up many Russian resources each day and the same can be done for North Korea seeing they wish to join in.

[Trenchcoat]

Looks like the EU are prepared to step up to fund Ukraine if Trump pulls out:

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-us-withdrawal-g7-war-in-ukraine-loan-poland-deputy-finance-minister-pawel-karbownik/

A slight lessening in funding for the Ukraine war if Trump pulls out might help Ukraine avoid Russia going for the nuclear option (or similar). If Putler feels up against it by a coalition of foreign powers he might move to that option. But if the falling strength of Russian forces and the Russian economy is somewhat matched by Ukraine then Russia may not feel unfairly overwhelmed and press on without the use of WMD's. That I believe would tend to give Ukraine a good chance of winning the war by playing the long game with Russia's forces and economy running down by attrition and Russia ultimately seeing the war as no longer worth it or possible to continue, packing up and going home of its own accord. That or Russian soldiers taking it upon themselves to do likewise and/or a potential collapse and break up of the Russian Federation.

[krimster2]

we'll know EVERYTHING in two more months
every detail

I suspect what Europe does before Jan 20 and after Jan 20
will be different, once the European oil and gas industry gets involved again...
they have to push their own governments otherwise all bonuses go to Trump and US oil and gas executives who kiss Trump's ass who kisses Putin's ass
only ass kissers get paid


when Trump is in power, Putin will step up his sabotage against the EU and UK
and Trump will block a NATO response to Putin's bullying
as long as Trump is in power, Putin has "Carte Blanche" to twist the British Lion's tail (note: lion is now a little puddy cat) as much as it amuses him to do so

two unchecked rich bullies who help each other steal lunch money from the other kids

[Trenchcoat]

I think for sure we'll have to wait and see what happens when Trump gets into Office.

In Syria it's looking like it's all over already for President sad. The rebels are advancing very rapidly with little to no resistance. The Syrian Army appears to have had enough and don't wish to risk their lives to hold some rich guy in power anymore. The rats are leaving the sinking ship and the ship is going down fast, who would have thought a couple of weeks ago that Syria's regime would be topelled so fast:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/12/06/russia-assads-rescue-citizens-leave-syria/

It looks like even Russia has given up this time and thrown in the towel. Perhaps another sign of Russia growing weakness.

[krimster2]

putin losing control of the syrian pipelines is a big deal, who will use them now?
what happened to the Russian Novichok Factory in Syria?
I wonder who has it now?
I'd love to see pictures of inside

syria used to be a great country to explore, before all the troubles started

[Trenchcoat]

Shockingly it looks like it's all but over for Assad already!

Syrian Rebel forces have already reached the outskirts of the Syrian Capital Damascus in a lightening fast advance.

They are already there and it looks like the Syrian Regime of Assad has just hours left to live. Who would have thought that Assad would be deposed so quickly. I bet he didn't even see it coming. What will happen to him now remains to be seen. His pal Putler has deserted him and even Iran don't seem to want to bother.

http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14168515/amp/Bashar-al-Assad-faces-end-Syria-rebels-reach-edge-Damascus-Russia-Iran-abandon-thousands-soldiers-desert.html

An interesting point about the oil pipelines Krim, Putler won't like that setback either.

[2tallbill]

we'll know EVERYTHING in two more months
every detail

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my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making
things up in my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making things up in my head,
I am making things up in my head, I am making things up in my head, I am making things up
in my head,

Krimster, believes that Russia is bribing a billionaire but that dementia boy Biden who has spent
40 years in politics and his crack head son are paragons of virtue although they both got rich 
while Biden was in politics.

I want a list of all Crack heads that got rich AFTER they became crack heads. Wait, there aren't
any.

[krimster2]

I'd recommmend ya get some kneepads for when ya grovel before me....

[Trenchcoat]

It's all over for Putler's mate Assad, the Capital Damascus has fallen to the rebels and Assad has apparently left the country probably for Russia his many long years of tyranny over:

http://www.euronews.com/2024/12/08/syrian-rebels-take-the-capital-damascus-say-bashar-al-assad-has-fled-the-country

The Syrian Army just had no fight left in them in the end and fled. Russian Warships & Submarines will have to now leave their Syrian Naval base as will Russian warplanes. The loss of Syria will weaken Russia's place in the world as with Turkey closing of access to the Black Sea for the Russian Navy they will no longer have any place to resupply and service their ships and will likely have to go all the way back to Russia.

So that's one of Putler's allies that has fallen and as small as it is still of significance. I think Iran could be another ally of Putler's to take on that would totally irradicate Russia influence in the region and further restrict help to Russia.

It's already known that Assad's family has gone to Russia to live in exile their most probably and Assad is most likely with them. A real come down I am sure from being the leader whose family had controlled Syria for decades.