am i about to be scammed or just paranoid ??

[mark H]

broken the golden rule ?? like bruno says .... you don`t have a lot of choice   . i have done as much homework as i can , you get to a point of no return where you have to send money !like i may have said before i`ve stayed at her home with her son , been to meet the whole family .I know its one of those things .. you  read many things about scaming and it is always at the back of your mind .. i uderstand about not getting a visa .. but all i have to do is ring the visa section and ask if they have recieced the application.

[Son of Clyde]

I'm sure you can stop the visa process but it is doubtful you will ever see your money again if it is a scam. Let's hope not. In the US the immigration people are elated to have our money and reluctant to let go of it. This is why people have to file multiple times even when USCIS made an error.

I think there needs to be an academy award for RW who are the best actresses.

Mark H, I am hoping you will be ok.

[Turboguy]

I do want to apologise for my previous post.  I guess I did not read this well enough.   I thought you were talking about $ 200.00 for the medical. 

You are definately being scammed.  I have been throught the K-1 Fiancee visa think and will likely be going through it again one of these days and it totally does not work that way.   You have to file.  She can not.    You have to fill out a 129-F   I have not heard you talk about that.   You both have to fill out and 325-G.  I have not heard you talk about that.   You have to have a copy of your birth certificate.   It must be filed with whichever of the 4 regional centers services you area. 

Sorry if I mislead you. 

[groovlstk]

TG, the original poster is a UK resident.

That said, I don't understand why a guy would make such a momentous decision to marry a girl he doesn't trust 100%.

[GregfromGa]

Why ? Not everybody is a old retired men who can allow himself to stay several month in FSU country... and some of the RW need to work for earn money, they have not at disposal several months of free time to share with guys who visit...

For my first wife ( RW ), i have visit her two time ( one time 4 week, one time 6 week )... and she have visit me two time ( each time 2 week )... it make a total of 3.5 month together on one year... but only 4 visit... Are you sure that one visit more have spare me to be scammed by a GCG?

The only method for not be scammed is education... and same so, it is never sure at 100%...

This has nothing to do with being retired. It has everything to do with actally knowing the person that you are going to marry. This should not even be a debate. Anyone that thinks it is,well they're an idiot. Spend a few weeks together, get married and live happily ever after. Thats a recipe for failure. It's not even close.

[Bruno]

This has nothing to do with being retired. It has everything to do with actally knowing the person that you are going to marry. This should not even be a debate. Anyone that thinks it is,well they're an idiot. Spend a few weeks together, get married and live happily ever after. Thats a recipe for failure. It's not even close.

A lot of guys have no choice...

Some need to work for live... and several country allow RW to visit home country only with fiancee visa...

Don't you think that visiting the possible new home country is something needed ? See how much K1 don't conclude with marriage... not always because of relationship but simply because the girls don't like the country...

In my case, i live in one of the two country ( Belgium - Holland ) who allow RW to come and stay without obligation of marriage... we can stay together so long we wish, and if we decide of marry, it is only because we wish it... like in real life with local ladies...

[mark H]

being english , i know very little about k1 s etc , and with us both having to work , it is just not possible for us to meet again till next spring/summer , so maybe this visa will fail, but we can only try , and a tourist visa is pretty doomed as she needs a decent bank balance to live here , even though i would pay for everything .

[swindoom]

and a tourist visa is pretty doomed as she needs a decent bank balance to live here , even though i would pay for everything .

Mark,

This is not true, when my wife applied for a tourist visa her bank balance was not important to the ECO as I provided total support while she was in the country. You just need to show you are willing and able to support her during her visit. The ECO is more concerned that you lady has good reason to return to Russia when on a tourist visa, a job being a good reason.

[mark H]

now this is were is all gets confusing , because i have read of tourist visa being refused because the RW applying has had good reason to return , child , job , etc , but was told told she did not have enough savings to support herself if her sponser let her down in the uk.
So maybe they just use that as an excuse if hey are not happy  with everything .

[2tallbill]

hi all , i`m new but have been reading for a long time now as aguest but thought now is the time to join.
your thoughts are welcome to this post please..
i`m 42 from Uk , my G/F is 36 from rostov , with a 6yo child . i have been over to hers , stayed at her flat , met her whole family , etc etc .. I have been talking / emails chatting for 7 months , she has never asked for any thing from me , when i stayed with her i offered  to buy her stuff but she refused everything other than everyday things ie food , etc etc .Now the relationship is at the point where we want to be together long term and planning to move her and her child here to the UK , for that she needs a fiancee visa and a settlement visa for her son , appox .. $1300 , .. ok i now she would never have that type of money so i said i would pay ( which is only right), then today she asks me if i could pay for a medical for her ($200) to make sure she is ok before living in a forgein country ( she has heard how bad the NHS is )
I have had all the usual scamming crap from young RW , and have read every scam web site going , and i have no reason what so ever to thing she would scam me ... but something is ringing alarm bells in my head or i am just worying over nothing and this is just a normal feeling and all you people have been through the same thing ?

I mean after 7 months , meeting her parents ,living with her in her own home etc etc speaking twice a day on the phone , i think she would have asked for money by now .... or is all just a long term scam .

mark

You are paranoid, worrying about nothing. How many times has she jumped your bones?
cooked you a meal, washed and ironed your clothes? Now she is going to scam you for
$200? Send her the money. You need to get ready to crack open your wallet on an hourly
basis for the next two years minimum.

She is risking everything, her family, friends, language and culture to be with you in rainy,
foggy ole Blighty, the land of lousy food and weather.

[ML]

Not a good idea to send money to a gal you have never met.

But I don't think it is such a bad idea to send money to a gal you have already spent time with to take care of some basic things.

For $200 or so, it could be a good investment to see if she is a scammer.  Would be a relatively cheap 'investigation.'

I did send several hundred dollars to 5-6 gals when we were going to meet for 2nd or 3rd time.  Never was scammed by any of them.

I remember one funny story.  I had sent $500 to a gal for her to use to find an apartment, stock up with some food, etc. before my arrival.
Despite having this money (which was pretty big back in early 2000s), she would wait for minibus rather than take taxi, to save a couple of kopecs.

[2tallbill]

ML, the guy is a cheapster, like our local forum cheapster.

Now the relationship is at the point where we want to be together long term and planning to move her and her child here to the UK , for that she needs a fiancee visa and a settlement visa for her son , appox .. $1300 , .. ok i now she would never have that type of money so i said i would pay ( which is only right), then today she asks me if i could pay for a medical for her ($200) to make sure she is ok before living in a forgein country ( she has heard how bad the NHS is )

Not a good idea to send money to a gal you have never met.

But I don't think it is such a bad idea to send money to a gal you have already
spent time with to take care of some basic things.

For $200 or so, it could be a good investment to see if she is a scammer.  Would
be a relatively cheap 'investigation.'

I did send several hundred dollars to 5-6 gals when we were going to meet for 2nd or 3rd time. 
Never was scammed by any of them.

I remember one funny story.  I had sent $500 to a gal for her to use to find an apartment,
stock up with some food, etc. before my arrival.
Despite having this money (which was pretty big back in early 2000s), she would wait for
minibus rather than take taxi, to save a couple of kopecs.