Large age difference

[ML]

Doug, good to see you here.
Thanks for posting update and glad to hear that all is OK.
AkMike's gal was from Cherkassy.  Think he might have been planning to move there.
He hasn't been around here since 2019.

[2tallbill]

Bill's general theory of FSUW age relativity

Each man has what should be considered a package.

1. Looks: How purdy are you?
2. Physique: This includes height, weight, muscles, stanima or the lack thereof.
3. Social skills: How well do you function in a social situation with women?
4. FSU experience: Have you dated one of these creatures before?
5. Language: Can you say more than Da ili nyet? Do you know what ili means?
Can you read any Cyrillic?
6. Living/Lifestyle?
Do you live on a beach in Hawaii? (good) in Nome Alaska (bad) in your
mothers basement (bad) Last wife was eaten by a crocodile (bad) local
cannibals (bad) The oil fields of Norf Dakoty (bad) member of a cult (bad)
7. How much time, money and energy can you spend on this pursuit?
8. Money: If you make more than $100K or less than $100K add or
subract 1 year depending on if you are above or below that number.
Two weeks of vacation per year and/or using credit cards to pay for it
is dividing by zero, living on the moon without a space helmet, getting into
a shootout without a gun or bullets. Stop! Fix your situation then come back
only after you fixed it. 

Assign a value to each of these things from one to five and add up your points
then divide by 8. This is your value number. 

Take your age, subtract 10 years then subtract your value number. This is your
X factor. Special note: Every value number is less than 4 then you add 1 year to
your X factor.

If you have 4 three's then look at the math.

Take your age say 40-10 = 30 add 4 years and you get 34.
Do not write, date or talk to any woman who is less than 34 years old.

Do not pursue a woman who is younger than your X factor. If you do you are
in a risky situation. That doesn't mean 100% you are doomed, but you are 
doomed +90% of the time.

If you are risk adverse then you take your age and subtract 7 years and then
calculate your X factor.

In the FSU every woman really wants marriage and a family. If she has a child
she really also wants a father for her child who will treat the child kindly and
set an example as a role model for that child.

I got way too far into the weeds, so I am simplifying this.

Each man has what should be considered a package.

1. Looks: How purdy are you?
2. Physique: This includes height, weight, muscles, stamina or the lack thereof.
3. Social skills: How well do you function in a social situation with women?
4. FSU experience: Have you dated one or more of these creatures before?
5. Language: Can you say more than Da ili nyet? Do you know what ili means?
Can you read any Cyrillic?
6. Living/Lifestyle?
Do you live on a beach in Hawaii? (good) in Nome Alaska (bad) in your
mothers basement (very bad) Last wife was eaten by a crocodile (bad) local
cannibals (very bad) The oil fields of Norf Dakoty (bad) member of a cult (bad)
7. How much time, money and energy can you spend on this pursuit?
8. Money:* If you make more than $100K (acceptable) or less than $100K (risky)


Two weeks of vacation per year and/or using credit cards to pay for it = In your future
both your kidney's will be sold to pay for your divorce. Dialysis = Your future.

Do not attempt this if you are poor and/or don't have the ability to travel frequently.


* There are exceptions to the money. If you make less than $50K per year, you will have
problems, E.G. Making the trips, paying for all the things that you will need to pay for that
will pop up. Sending wifey home to visit Mamma. Her teeth and can easily be a total mess
and require thousands to repair (or she could be toothless).
 
You will have to buy family health care which is highly expensive in the US these days. This
can exceed $700 per month.

Take your age subtract 10 years and stick to that unless, you have a great package with
many of the traits above. If you have less of the package go with less than 10 years.

Lastly don't lie to yourself.

[ML]

Lastly don't lie to yourself.

That's no fun !!

[ML]

I dated women who were my daughter's age.

But I drew the line (just above) at dating those who were my granddaughter's age; not that I had a granddaughter.

But then, if I were a billionaire and Anna Nicole were still available !!

[Trenchcoat]

I dated women who were my daughter's age.

 

[Trenchcoat]

I got way too far into the weeds, so I am simplifying this.

Each man has what should be considered a package.

1. Looks: How purdy are you?
2. Physique: This includes height, weight, muscles, stamina or the lack thereof.
3. Social skills: How well do you function in a social situation with women?
4. FSU experience: Have you dated one or more of these creatures before?
5. Language: Can you say more than Da ili nyet? Do you know what ili means?
Can you read any Cyrillic?
6. Living/Lifestyle?
Do you live on a beach in Hawaii? (good) in Nome Alaska (bad) in your
mothers basement (very bad) Last wife was eaten by a crocodile (bad) local
cannibals (very bad) The oil fields of Norf Dakoty (bad) member of a cult (bad)
7. How much time, money and energy can you spend on this pursuit?
8. Money:* If you make more than $100K (acceptable) or less than $100K (risky)


Two weeks of vacation per year and/or using credit cards to pay for it = In your future
both your kidney's will be sold to pay for your divorce. Dialysis = Your future.

Do not attempt this if you are poor and/or don't have the ability to travel frequently.


* There are exceptions to the money. If you make less than $50K per year, you will have
problems, E.G. Making the trips, paying for all the things that you will need to pay for that
will pop up. Sending wifey home to visit Mamma. Her teeth and can easily be a total mess
and require thousands to repair (or she could be toothless).
 
You will have to buy family health care which is highly expensive in the US these days. This
can exceed $700 per month.

Take your age subtract 10 years and stick to that unless, you have a great package with
many of the traits above. If you have less of the package go with less than 10 years.

Lastly don't lie to yourself.

You forget in your equation is that the girl also has a value number Beel

That effect things. However I would say even with equations done in both sides there can be more to it. One the girl has to be open to dating older guys (if we are talking about a large age gap). She also might have problems dating herself for whatever reason. She might have preferences to the type of guy she would like. She might just be looking for a guy she is into regardless of age, etc.

There could be many reasons why it could work with a large age gap. For sure there is always the much older guy hoping for a hit young thing who possibly might be deluding himself or beyond his means. However, I think with some women it's less of a thing out in the FSU as it is here. Some but not all prefer older guys (but not likely granddaddy older guys) who they may feel more comfortable with than younger guys. Some women can mature faster mentally than men and so prefer a man who isn't clowning around or feels like he is like a brother, is junior to her at least feelings wise. I would say though that older guys need to be wary of some younger girls who say they like older guys when really they are just out to fleece the older guy on shopping trips, etc.

End of the day relationships don't necessarily tend to find down to a number equation but instead what just works, do the people get on well together, are each others type, are into each other, emotional bond, etc.

I personally have tended to prefer much younger Women. Somewhere towards at least 10 years. The girl being my junior tends to make me feel more at ease and let's face it with many FSW they can be fairly dominant types so a age too near mine is likely to produce a relationship where the woman dominates too much with too much of a battle on my hands to push back against it.

It's really just keep trying until you find a girl where the relationship just works for you both I feel.

[Daveman]

Once again -- I must reiterate her attraction level to you is paramount.  It won't help pay the bills, but her settling for you' in any way is a much higher risk.  Her options are limited where she's at, but her options will be numerous later in your country.  "Open to dating older men" may have a greater span in her country and shrink dramatically when she sees what's actually available later. 

That's why I only date women with severe daddy issues --  when you're basically her fetish, success is virtually guaranteed. 


Edit to add: Bill's number system above has great merit.  Men are generally better at figuring out numerical systems for statistics -- even abstract extrapolated statistics.  Of course individual experience will vary but travelling too far outside the curve is --- well, outside the curve. 

You forget in your equation is that the girl also has a value number Beel

That effect things. However I would say even with equations done in both sides there can be more to it. One the girl has to be open to dating older guys (if we are talking about a large age gap). She also might have problems dating herself for whatever reason. She might have preferences to the type of guy she would like. She might just be looking for a guy she is into regardless of age, etc.

There could be many reasons why it could work with a large age gap. For sure there is always the much older guy hoping for a hit young thing who possibly might be deluding himself or beyond his means. However, I think with some women it's less of a thing out in the FSU as it is here. Some but not all prefer older guys (but not likely granddaddy older guys) who they may feel more comfortable with than younger guys. Some women can mature faster mentally than men and so prefer a man who isn't clowning around or feels like he is like a brother, is junior to her at least feelings wise. I would say though that older guys need to be wary of some younger girls who say they like older guys when really they are just out to fleece the older guy on shopping trips, etc.

End of the day relationships don't necessarily tend to find down to a number equation but instead what just works, do the people get on well together, are each others type, are into each other, emotional bond, etc.

I personally have tended to prefer much younger Women. Somewhere towards at least 10 years. The girl being my junior tends to make me feel more at ease and let's face it with many FSW they can be fairly dominant types so a age too near mine is likely to produce a relationship where the woman dominates too much with too much of a battle on my hands to push back against it.

It's really just keep trying until you find a girl where the relationship just works for you both I feel.

[2tallbill]

You forget in your equation is that the girl also has a value number Beel

Yes, that is true. If she is fat, ugly toothless, has 8 or 9 kids, can't speak a word
of English and doesn't intend on learning then she will settle for an older man
who is broke.

Read the last thing I wrote

Lastly don't lie to yourself.

[2tallbill]

Once again -- I must reiterate her attraction level to you is paramount.

+100

If an FSUW doesn't Love, love, love you AND never wakes you up out of a dead sleep
for sex then you are barking up the wrong tree.

If you love her more than she loves you.................. You are doomed.

[ML]

If an FSUW . . . . wakes you up out of a dead sleep
for sex . . . .

Isn't this the type you always recommend to . . . "kick her to the  curb?"

[2tallbill]

Isn't this the type you always recommend to . . . "kick her to the  curb?"

The kick her to the curb type is the one who doesn't love/like you as much
as you like/love her. That is an uneven relationship, she settled for you.

There are women you can sleep with and then there are the ones you've gotta
wake up.

The last one works both ways

[krimster2]

what is this thing you call "LOVE"
I don't think it exists
another illusion you trick yourself into believing
like skydaddy and work hard to get ahead

a donkey is loved as long as he busts his back
and he gets the stick the moment he stops

is this your love?
c'mere good donkey, here boy!!! g'boy

pretty much EVERYTHING about "the human condition" SUCKS
I only hope there's a post-human future after the era of apocalypse which is in about 20 more years
and humans are just a minor nuisance to the AI God

I'd advise you all to be cremated after death...
Why?

cuz in the future, "Resurrrection Men" take their DNA probe and PCR chamber
and hit all the cemetaries  to extract 'marketable DNA' to make "work clones"
and "YOU" could spend the next 100 generations working in the mills

[ML]

. . . she will settle for an older man who is broke.

So I will always have a chance ?

[ML]

69 year old Raiders owner Mark Davis said his 26 year old girlfriend didn't know he was a billionaire.  She was just attracted to his beautiful smile.

[ML]

So guys . . . the key is . . . work on your smile !!!