Yes I have some high standards, but jeeze after all the hype I have been reading for years and the endless international websites of not blond models I was expecting a little more from Odessa.
hype is just that "hype"
so no need to treat it differently, or have it elevate your expectations ?
as far odessa vs huntington beach
i've been on beaches in ukraine, in brazil, in socal, fla,
texas, ohio, new york, north carolina ,greece, egypt, canada,carribean ,mexico, south africa and quite a few others.
lol
it may surprise you that i agree with you. .
the number of beautiful women on any chicago beach on a nice day is about as impressive as just about anywhere else, or any other major city, or resort location for that matter, why would anyone "expect" different?and chicago isnt known as a beach city,
like many socal or florida cities
heck i'm sure any large las vegas hotel pool area ,,
would yield more *hotties per square meter* than odessa..
to fly into odessa expecting a significantly more 'hotties" than on a world reknowned SoCal beach ,(with lots of tourism )
just isnt being very realistic?
and expecting romatic involvement thru randomly
meeting them on the beach or city street,
has about as good as odds as you would have with the Socal hotties
on the beach.?
just so so..
as most beautiful, intelligent women,
are in current relatoionships. .
(just like the ones in ukraine)
sorry if agency hype misled you.
The FSU isn't some complete mecca where all the women are intelligent ,classy , pretty, and also all single and availible.
it shouldnt surprise you that a woman with all those qualities are often involed no matter what country they live in.
so it might take some genuine buckled down effort,
before and after arriving in any country,
to meet single ones(or just good luck)
the odds of just rambling around the streets beaches or nightclubs and finding yourself involved romantically with a perfect 9-10 is not high ?
if some website made you think so,,
*shrugs*
all that said,
around my area,
there are tons of eastern europeans,, and if you notice a sophisticated beautiful lady in some store or social situation , she may be american,but the odds are high she is lithunian, ukranian, polish,estonian or russian.
(odds are high they are involved as well of course..)
I do feel the odds of meeting a woman like you are describing , that is also single, is higher in eastern europe (in general)
quite a bit higher as far as her being single
(now wether she would even consider marriage to a foriegn man is entirely a different story)
so use your time there wisely.
if you don't like odessa , by all means try some other city..
kharkov is a college town.. and like any USA college town will have a few more pretty girls than other places..?
(just like popular beachs do ,the world around?)
as far as RW being less romantic and more geared to the finnacial side of things..
LOL!
please take the blue pill and enter the matrix..
you may not like the answers,but they are the true reality.
Most RW that have signed up at a dating agency to meet foreign guys, an
are ,quite understandibly,
going to be relocating with financial security and stabilty
a large part of the scenerio in thier minds!
it's is a very small percentage of the population that would leave all thier friends family and culture behind to start a new life far away?
the one's that would will likely still be very cautious and careful about it!!
they do want to marry someone they love,,
but certainly if they want to simply fall in love , a local guy would do..
so there will be other things factored in, and financial stabilty is certainly one of the big things!
marriage in this country, as well as the FSU ,
often has financial stabilty tied to it closely ?
In general russian people are quite romantic.
They are also pragmatic.
The culture is a bit of a enigma in that it has a unique soul and
true romantic spirit to it,
yet many people in daily life are often overly concerned with
outward appearences, and materialistic things, like who has the coolest new cell phone , or luxery car.. etc.
bottom line is how many of those huntington beach beauties are
also the entire package you are looking for?
ive lived in Socal quite a bit ,
often a very plastic/fake culture, in many ways,especially as far as the young hard body crowd,
,, and as far as the sophisticated woman you are looking for, i think youd have to look pretty long and far there.
if you found a single woman with all these qualities in HB,
what are the odds she would out of hand consider marriage
at all?
or how about to a foriegn man?
if she considered an italian guy for example for marriage and relocation, you think she just
might]/i] be interested also in how he lives?
wether he is "generous"?
of COURSE she still would want to be in love with him..
even a plastic valley girl has such princess dreams? 
but most like she'd be just as interested in financial stabilty as well..
if she is going to marry and move?!?!!
why in the heck would a RW be any different than her huntington beach sister,, or your expectations be different?
put yourself in either womans shoes?
of course they hope the man is generous!
they hope he is charming, tall, dark ,and handsome too!
i'm not sure why you'd read anymore into a dating site profile,or a womans general outlook, than would naturally be there?
*shrugs*
I've never been to odessa.,maybe it is as you see it.
Most major cities of the world have plenty of beautiful women.
When guys bash AW here, i often wonder wether they even open thier eyes when in san diego, dallas, new york, LA, Chicago, etc etc?
and from past experiences ,i have little doubt that i could fly into
Sao paulo, volgograd, prague, kiev , dnepropetrovsk, or visit crimea and see plenty as well..
your mileage seems to have varied, in one certain city..
your expectations where either just way over the top, or your
timing just unlucky,, and only a couple days of experience there..
at this stage I am only left with agencies or my own efforts to produce leads. Of the two, I think I will do much better on my own even though I don't speak a word of Urankski.
well if you are going to Dnepro,,better switch to not knowing any Russian
as much as dating agencies may turn you off
(and i'm all FOR meeting people in a more traditional way ! )
you are already in ukraine
,and there to meet women obviuosly,
and to meet single ones!
so it certainly isnt a horrible way.
it sure wouldn't be boring.
i met some of the big agencies' banner ad girls hust for fun
( i knew they wernt serious about marriage, but it sure wasnt boring to date them..even though both sides knew it was little more than entertainment .. )
while i wasnt just there dating for fun..
I wasnt dead set on marriage to anyone ,
much less someone specifically of a given nationality!
and if a date with someone interesting,but not serious, came up..
i'd just as easily entertain myself that way..
( i would in any city? same if in chicago or prague)
if someone was seriuos,and marriage minded , and interesting,
all the better!
i wasnt set on a final outcome ,or any given time frame.
while life is indeed better shared with someone special,
to me life (and dating/ marriage)is an adventure to experience, not a destination.
again YMMV
good luck!
